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A Pretrial Loss for Oregon Standoff’s Pete Santilli

Challenging the Rhetoric

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By CHERI ROBERTS for Challenging the Rhetoric

In a ruling on  pretrial conference motions, U.S. District Judge Anna Brown, with one exception, excludes any evidence of Pete Santilli’s conduct and statements to counter-protesters and media in the government’s case against him and 25 other individuals. According to the 26-page document, the evidence in question is not directly relevant to the alleged conspiracy to impede federal officers by force, intimidation, or threat.

Brown’s exception is a video in which Santilli tells a counter-protester “better not bring a butter knife to a gun fight.” In the document, Brown says this statement by Santilli is admissible because it is relevant to the government’s theory as to the purpose of the possession of firearms by the occupiers charged in the conspiracy.

Santilli is one of 8 individuals heading to trial on September 7, for his involvement in the 41-day heavily armed takeover…

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13 comments on “A Pretrial Loss for Oregon Standoff’s Pete Santilli

  1. ruffadam
    September 6, 2016

    “Heavily armed standoff” My God what a joke of a so called journalist you are by using BS propaganda talking points like that. It would not surprise me if you are now calling 9/11 truthers “conspiracy theorists” too since you clearly have gone to the dark side, to use Star Wars terminology.

    The only violent heavily armed people involved in this whole thing were the cops and feds. By the way the proof of that is in the pudding dear since the only people who pointed and fired any weapons were the cops and feds and they were the ones who shot and killed LaVoy Finicum and shot the hell out of a truck with a teenage girl in it who was just a singer on her way to sing at the event they were headed to. Where is your outrage about that huh? I mean you are “Challenging the Rhetoric” right? I guess you do not challenge the governments rhetoric much at all though do ya?

    Of course you have some evidence to support your portrayal of the occupiers as “heavily armed” violent terrorists right? Do you have any evidence of the occupiers pointing guns at anyone? Do you have any evidence of any of them threatening to harm anyone? Do you have evidence that they were “heavily armed” or were they simply exercising their 2nd amendment rights to self defense? Do you have evidence of Ammon or LaVoy getting violent with anyone? No? Exactly! You are a hack not a journalist you are a sleezy tabloid hack working for the jackboot thugs who are destroying our country. Enjoy your 20 pieces of silver Judas.

    Ammon Bundy and many others attended a meeting at the local school right in the middle of the whole thing and guess what? They were peaceful and polite and walked in and out right past Sheriffs who they talked to cordially. They never were a threat to anyone. The only way those men would have been a threat is if someone would have initiated violence against them in which case they have a God damned right to defend themselves.

    The truth is Ammon Bundy and LaVoy Finicum and the good people who tried to stand up against the governments flagrant abuses and land thefts are giants compared to people like you. I for one hold them in very high regard while you I expect to be laughing when the jackboots start stomping on all our heads. You will be right there like Salacious B. Crumb laughing about it. Truly you make me sick.

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    • Cheri
      September 8, 2016

      If only you had as much loyalty to your wife as you do to a bunch of strangers, and a case, you know little to nothing about. The ugliness you exude is astonishing. BTW Adam, get your facts straight when you try to use them to insult someone. Judas had 30 pieces of silver, not 20.😉

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      • Adam Ruff
        September 10, 2016

        Santilli was released from all charges related to the Oregon occupation so be sure to post that on your rag of a “news” show/talk show whatever you want to call it. You know the one where you DON’T challenge the governments and MSM’s rhetoric? That one.

        20 pieces or 30 you got the point and it was dead on accurate right between the eyes. I am not going to be polite to you Judas or more properly Benedict Arnold, what you are doing is wrong on every possible level. Like I said Ammon Bundy and LaVoy Finicum and the political prisoners that are going to be tried in that kangaroo admiralty court there in Oregon are giants compared to people like you. They actually have integrity and honor while you clearly do not.

        Oh and just like I know way more than you about 9/11 I know way more than you do about this case and the people involved. I bet you have not even watched LaVoy Finicum’s video about the Constitutional issues involved here with the federal government “owning” land outside of Washington DC. You know exactly squat about that because he was exactly right the Federal government is in flagrant violation of the Constitution in claiming they have authority over the Hammond’s land and many thousands of other ranches, farms, and mines. They don’t own it according to the Constitution and you don’t know why they don’t because you have not investigated the matter at all because you are not a real journalist you are just a stooge just like the people at FOX or CNN or any other corporate network. Yet here you are acting like you know something when all you are really doing is acting as the feds lap dog repeating their propaganda talking points just like the MSM does 24/7/365.

        Any time you want to test your theory about who knows more about this issue you just say the word. Of course you don’t think you can learn anything from anybody else because you are so smart right?

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      • Cheri
        September 10, 2016

        It is hilarious how proud you are of your ignorance as you continue to make a fool of yourself here. You are nothing but a conspiracy pornographer, Adam, and a total disgrace to activism, TRUTH, and this country.

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      • Adam Ruff
        September 11, 2016

        Oh now I am a “conspiracy pornographer” and that sounds really bad so it must be really bad. You have to know that you sound just like a JREF troll calling me a “Twoofer” right? Pathetic. Anyway Cheri carry on with your official government propaganda dissemination and collect your weekly “30” pieces of silver! You are doing a fine job! I take pleasure in knowing that the worse you get the less people listen. You are just like the MSM now Cheri so look forward to your rapidly declining audience,

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      • Cheri
        September 11, 2016

        Don’t forget , you said I was a “Lion, both beautiful and dangerous” to YOU. I haven’t forgotten. Nor should you. I will only allow your bashing hyperbole for so long, so you would be wise to remember your own written words before I remind you of the rest of them.

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      • Cheri
        September 11, 2016

        BTW, why don’t you go after those who ARE actually bashing and slandering Santilli, unlike myself. 😉 https://challengingtherhetoric.wordpress.com/2016/09/10/bundy-patriots-concocting-conspiracy-theories-slandering-internet-talk-show-host-pete-santilli/ Oh, that’s right. Because your problem has nothing to do with Santilli, or the Bundys, or land rights…

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    • Defending your point with ad homonym attacks hows a lack of ethic. our arguments are hereby disqualified as mere folly. Domestic terrorism is not being a patriot it is in fact quite the opposite. I hope you get the help that you obviously need so you feel better.

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      • Cheri
        September 11, 2016

        All Adam knows is ad hominem attacks. It is his specialty. 😉

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  2. kathywompus
    September 11, 2016

    It seems obvious to me.

    The Federal Government obtained the NW Territories by treaty after the Revolution
    The Federal Government made The Louisiana Purchase.
    The Federal Government “acquired” the Southwest from Mexico.
    The Federal Government made a deal with the UK to split the Oregon Territory.

    The Federal Government created the states and generously gave each state and many individuals and many businesses lots and lots of land,

    but not all of it.

    The Federal Government land today has been owned by The Federal Government from day one. These people do not have a valid argument.

    **This of course ignores the entire Native American issue.

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    • Cheri
      September 11, 2016

      DOJ has filed proof in #oregonstandoff case that the fed gov purchased the Malheur Refuge buildings’ land in 1935. https://twitter.com/jjmacnab

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      • Adam Ruff
        September 12, 2016

        They may have “purchased” the land in 1935 but according to the Constitution the federal government is not allowed to purchase or own that land. Here I will walk you through it since you will not actually investigate it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGphvnjrBJc

        I assume ahead of time that you will not watch this but you have been given the information so now it is on you to either acknowledge it or pretend it doesn’t mean anything. Be aware though Cheri that Constitutional law experts agree with what LaVoy says in the video I posted.

        I know it is virtually impossible for you to ever admit that you are wrong about something but regardless if you admit it or not you are wrong about this.

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      • Cheri
        September 12, 2016

        I am not wrong, you are, as are the Bundys. YOU need to read our Constitution dear, not just cherry pick it. Have a good day bloviating.

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